BHS: Look at yesterday's assignment (Thurs. 10/11) and now that the debate is over. Do some research on news sites (cnn, msnbc, fox news, etc) and tell me what you think about the debate and the coverage of it. Who did better? There was a lot of talk about it being very heated, confrontational, and even at times rude. Do you agree?
Also - it is called a DEBATE - isn't it suppose to be a little heated because the two debaters don't agree on the issues. That's why we have debates. Do you think the public opinion and the media have been overly sensitive about the candidates' performances?
From the link that I read ( http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/laughing-joe-steals-the-show-at-vice-presidential-debate/ ) it mostly talks about how people reacted to Joe Biden laughing during the debate numerous times. The republican's however were not pleased by his "cackling" and thousands of posts went up on twitter about it. I on the other hand think it's humorous and Joe is a cute old man
ReplyDeleteThanks for posting the link as well - shows you did your research. I wonder what he would think of you calling him a "cute old man." :)
DeleteI honestly do not care about the debate.I think Joe Biden did better in the debate because the topics he talked about I agree with. I do not agree with them being so rude to each other but I like how they were a little confrontational. Yes, debates are suppose to be heated; but, I think the public opinion and media have been overly sensitive about the candidates' performance.
ReplyDeleteTrue - people seem to be very sensitive during this election. I think it's one of the worst I have ever seen with people being so sensitive about how the candidates act.
DeleteYeah that's why I don't really watch it. I turn it to something much more interesting.
DeleteI do indeed think that modern America has become over sensitive about being argumentative and intrusive. The fundamental idea behind a debate is to argue and to get to the bottom of issues for the betterment of knowledge for the viewers and debaters alike. Many may actually be surprised and even insulted by the idea of a debate not becoming heated. If they aren't passionate about what they believe then how much do they really care. Now, there is a point that can blow the cap off the coke but as long as fists aren't physically thrown and language is kept civil, there is nothing wrong with heating up your tea cup of American issues. The great speakers and leaders of history got heated speaking to mere crowds. They didn't even need a competitor to pound their fists and raise their voices. Are our politicians having a superficial tea party or are they trying to inspire the public? If you want the petty conversation of a lighthearted debate then read a children's book. I'm sure the simple conflict and quick resolution will leave you satisfied and no longer looking for answers to the world's big questions, but if you want to truly mold your own perspective and your own viewpoints then understand that passion leads to inspiration, and inspiration leads to understanding.
ReplyDeleteI agree - the President was criticized for not being emotional, yet the VP was criticized for being over emotional. Like the "tea cup" analogy. Wonderful last line. :)
DeleteThis debate does not even matter! People don't vote for vice presidents, we vote for the president. It does not matter how high the drama is in the vice presidential debate, because little that they say will effect the outcome of this election.
ReplyDeleteBut did Biden's performance help the President who had been criticized for not performing well at the debate last week? It's true the VP race is usually of little concern, but he is the next in command should something happen to the President. Does that matter though in an election?
DeleteFrom watching the debate last night I really didn't enjoy watching Joe Biden. In my opinion he wasn't taking the debate seriously and was acting childish. I was more impressed with Paul Ryan and how seriously he took the issues. There should be a debate and its okay to disagree but Biden didn't take it seriously and i felt as if he were just trying to find something to argue about. The republican's were not impressed with Biden's facial expressions and attitude towards the entire debate. Many people on Twitter and Facebook were not particularly happy with his attitude either. I didn't find it entertaining at all and I thought Biden should have conducted himself with more respect for the topics he was discussing.
ReplyDeleteGood point. Do you think Ryan handled himself well considering he does not have the experience the VP had? What about this week's presidential debate. Who do you think will come out on top this time?
DeleteI am not a big politics person, but I think that Joe Biden did better in the debate. I like how Joe was laid back and loose during the debate. I like that the debate was heated, it showed that both of them were serious about the topics that they were discussing.
ReplyDeleteThanks for sharing - why do you think so many were upset with Biden, and then there were those, like you who thought it showed that he was "laid back". Does it really matter how it looks because each side is going to "spin" it to suit their opinion?
DeleteI think that people may have been upset with Biden because they thought it made him look like he wasn't serious about the situations.
DeleteThe debate isn't something I care much about. I don't think much of Paul Ryan or Joe Biden. According to Chicago Tribune (Link: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/elections/chi-vice-presidential-debate-fact-check-20121012,0,743796.story)either one of them really "won" per say. Of course they aren't going to say anything that may portray their candidate as bad for this country, so otherwise they have rhetoric quotes and speeches that they tell the public, even when it isn't completely true. If I had to say somebody won, it would be Biden, because his debate is more truthful than Ryan's is.
ReplyDeleteWhat makes Biden's more truthful? Thanks for posting the research link. You have a good point about rhetoric. Do you think all politicians just say what we want to hear.
DeleteI think (WWW.CNN.com)covered it the best. I like how they separated the two parties so you can see both of them and not have to go back and forth between the two men. I don't like how Joe Biden was rude to Paul Ryan but I liked the heated discussions. It made it more exciting and you just sit there and wonder what is going to happen next. I think the public and the media are sensitive about the candidates' performance. They try and make a big deal out of nothing.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you about everyone being too sensitive. If you had to call a winner would you say Ryan or Biden?
ReplyDeleteI think everyone is focusing too much on the performance from both of the vice presidential candidates, instead of the facts. Personally, I see more falsehoods spilling out of Ryan's mouth than I do with Biden. But that doesn't mean he isn't lying either. They're both working to try and sway the public in their favor, and unfortunately, it doesn't take facts to do that. More conservatives will say that Biden was playing unfairly and cutting Ryan off. Liberals will say that Ryan was lying and that Biden was correcting him. They all lie so much about which way they vote, it's hard to even dig for the truth anymore. This country is just doomed. Either way, we're doomed.
ReplyDeleteI hate to think that we are doomed, but I do agree with your comment about being to hard to even dig for the truth anymore. I was thinking about this today and how there are a thousand articles, polls, studies, etc. out there that will show "your" guy is great and the other guy is a moron - but it's the same for the "other" guy. And social media does not make it any better. I've almost decided it's that age old adage "you can't reason with an idiot" and some of us have just become fanatical idiots who are sure beyond a shadow of a doubt that "our" guy is so much better. Really, I think it's the lesser of 2 evils anyway.
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